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Many foreigners are naive and short-sighted. The whole set of corrupted practices is supported by local and central governments. No company of reasonably sized business is really "private". It is in the culture, in Chinese mind set to be a "pirate". Selling fakes in the domestic market, prevents the entrance of genuine foreign brands, and provides a political excuse for keeping Chinese domestic market relatively closed for foreigners. The whole culture is based on what we call "corruption". But in Chinese mind, corruption has quite different meaning. Also, we are facing a corporate model mind taking over the world. China is just a new born corporation that wants to enter the club, but likes to play by its own rules (read no rules). What good China has is from its past. This country contribution to the values of growing world for the last few hundred years is 0. IT takes and gives nothing in return. It breaks all ethical and moral rules we know of, and brands its behaviour as "Chinese characteristic". The average Chinese is really happy when she succeed to trick a system or a person to her own advantage. Creating sth new doesn't even cross a Chinese mind. All we hear is EXCUSES. We are getting stupid and we will suffer the consequences. Too much power in the hands of a primitive mind. We are horing ourselves for cheep junk, instead transforming our societies to the next higher level of living and working.
China is the Chinese medicine that will shake the world-it exposes all our ills in a day light. Hopefully after suffering enough, we will be healed.
The girl who said the they were still making a profit on a 90% discount must have got fired for attempting to save face. I can see why they can register in HK and be called "Foreign" Even the Chinese people know HK is not really a part of China.
Mr. Lloyd and others,
Two things.
1) The average mark-up on clothing all over the world is 700%. That is why clothing stores can offer 60% off and still make a profit.
2) People, where do you think these clothes are made? Everyone registers their tradename in developed countries, but the factories making this stuff are located in poor Asian countries. I can't think of the name of the famous company who owns all of the popular clothing brand names, but they don't own or operate one single factory that produces their clothes. Man, what is that name? I think it's VF Corp. Maybe Adidas Group. It's on the tip of my tongue. The point is, you're buying Chinese made clothing whether you like it or not.
Disgusting...being one Italian Citizen i am outraged.. I don't know why Chinese who claim to have 5000 years of culture aren't able to produce anything original...
in my opinion, it is not directly connection betweent 5000 years of culture and orignial production, culture is past, but now, we admit that italy is one of the top fashion country in the world, more and more chinese people like and accept italy style, it is fashion. For the other side, as the economy development, more and more chinese people would spent much more mony to improve his/her living standard, buying fashion clothes and so on, and do you think which country's clothes the rich chinese guy will choose? yes, italy. so the fakely brand also stimulate the rich guy to buy your country's product, by the way, the rules work for every country, if we imitate your's country, your country can benefit from my country. it seems not make sense, but it is the truths.
you in the pockets of said italian merchants trying to protect their bottom line from chinese entrepreneurial spirit? otherwise calm down. they are making up brands, not blatantly conterfeiting existing ones. It's a victimless crime if you will, and an original and creative move at that. If you have to feign outrage, at least recognize the only victims are the chinese who have to pony up for the goods.
I have seen in Shanghai women’s blue jeans over 1200 RMB $60 or more U.S. dollars. I found out that in China you can go to a restaurant that has poor service, food is not so good, but they charge you allot more money then average better eating restaurants. Chinese people will go to eat poor quality food because it appears to them in their way of thinking that the high cost of something means high quality. Maybe they do this to impress their peers or lovers or many Chinese people just can’t adapt to knowing how to invest and spend money an intelligent way according to many western standards. I believe they make things so cheap, because, when it breaks in a short period then consumer must spend more money to by a new item. The result is consuming to many resources and excessive waist to dispose of. I went with my wife to buy a sofa and living room table. 2900 RMB for the sofa and 1300 for the table. My wife being Chinese negotiated for some time. When we left we had both items delivered for 2500 RMB. I have seen 16 slices of cheap processed cheese sell for about $5 U.S. Four triple edge razors that say Shick brand for $14 U.S. and these prices were in department food store franchises. These prices are in small city of 3 million. Wide screen TV’s for $2100 U.S. I paid 4 times more for a Canon scanner printer then I would pay in U.S. Shoes look real nice, but they have thin poor support and some places you can get them dirt cheap but when you go to a mall you will pay three times more. In Nanning just because a restaurant says western, they charge you $5 U.S. for a small bottle of past brand beer, which is now owned by a Chinese brewery. Once I found out the price after they brought it to the table unopened, even though I refused it, they told me I had to pay for it because they already put it on my receipt. Retailers are competing on a high level. Every body has their own business. Food has already been inflated over 10% since January 2011, but fresh produce in an open market is very fresh and inexpensive. If they see you are a foreigner, many will over charge you. I shopped with my wife so many times, I know about what produce should sell for. If they try and cheat me I walk away. If you are an expatriate the safest place you can buy food is in a franchise department store, but the prices are a little higher and older and poorer quality then open market.
The "copies" are a result of the massive population more so than any devious intent in my opinion. With not intellectual property rights, who will have the motivation to be creative. Rather look at what works and sell it cheaper if you can still make a yuan. The impact of China in the world's industries has just begun and will not end until China is the world. It's part of our global evolution. I'm looking forward to the food to become the worlds standard. I just hope I have a job that allows me to enjoy it.